Quinton Jackson vs Forrest Griffin Video UFC 86

Saturday, July 5, 2008

Quinton Jackson vs Forrest Griffin Video UFC 86

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spongebob420 said...: My god. That just happened.; July 5, 2008 11:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Fight was exciting, went to decision. And sadly, i will have to agree with the decision. Punishing leg kicks. This worked on a former champion as well. I'm trying to remember if Rampage defended his title, or was this his first title defense. /shrug.; July 5, 2008 11:30 PM
Anonymous said...: pretty boring event...4/5 main card fights went to decision

only decent fight that went to decision was griffin's, all the rest were boring as hell, even that wasnt that great too

quinton wasnt aggressive enough imo, he just wasnt putting his belt on the line like he shouldve; July 5, 2008 11:36 PM
mcj said...: that fight was f*cking fixed; July 5, 2008 11:58 PM
Anonymous said...: PLEASE! post the decision and commentary vid; July 6, 2008 12:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Forrest clearly won.

Rampage should blame himself for not taking chances, and for not changing up his style a little bit, instead relying on the same stand up, uppercut crap all the time. Do some kicks, do some take down, gain some points. Rampage didn't do any of those.

Forrest on the other hand, gained a shit ton of points from his leg kicks and hand combos. And never wasted a single second when he was on the ground. He knew it, that by never stopping on the ground, the gain would be in his favor.; July 6, 2008 12:06 AM
Anonymous said...: wow is all I have to say, did not expect that, I guess Wandy is going to get the belt now...; July 6, 2008 12:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Bye bye Juanito.; July 6, 2008 12:19 AM
Anonymous said...: Wow, that was a pretty terrible fight, and rampage fought horribly. I'm a big rampage fan, and that disgusted me. Best division now has the worst champion, he'll lose it on the first defense though. Winner of rashad vs liddell, either can and will beat him.

I still can't believe that just happened.; July 6, 2008 12:19 AM
ian said...: I guess everyone (me included) will have to stop underestimating Forrest Griffin.

I feel that Rampage should have got the decision... but just barely. Forrest came in to win but Rampage came in not to lose.

Yah know... I think Forrest is an interesting fighter. You take a big guy with decent skills (come on, Rampage and Shogun ARE more technically sound, skilled fighters), get him with a good camp, teach him to follow a game plan... and now you have a champion.; July 6, 2008 12:26 AM
Anonymous said...: 1 round to Rampage
2 to Forrest
3 to Rampage
4 to Rampage
5 to either one
How did Forrest win? Because he won 2 points in the second? that still makes it either 26/28 Rampage or 27/27 tie. Rampage won by points, or tie, but that sounds unexiting so they gave Forrest the win for the leg kicks.. But acording to the judging system, how it ought to be, Rampage won(or tie). Bad decision, watch Machida, Liddell and Wanderlei Silva destroy Forrest next.; July 6, 2008 12:27 AM
Anonymous said...: phenomenal. what is awesome about this outcome is we will probably now see liddell - griffin as well as silva v.s. rampage 3. they wouldnt give him a title shot solely on his win over jardine, but, i don't see how this wont be the next fight for them now.

i honestly thought due to the damage of rampages strikes the decision might have gone in his favor, but i think its awesome there is a new champ.

the situation of forrest as champ will create better fights for the future.; July 6, 2008 12:33 AM
Anonymous said...: i'd give rampage round 1,3,4 and forrest 2 and 5. round 2 could be scored a 10/8. but to me rampage defended his titel. it's either a draw or a slight advantage for the champ. forrest did not whoop-ass enough.; July 6, 2008 12:38 AM
Anonymous said...: Between this fight and Shogun, you can't deny Forrest's place among the top tier of his weight class. But that was incredibly close and I think it could have gone either way (tho I too give the nod to Forrest). 1st goes to Rampage, 2nd is definitely 10-8 for forrest, 3rd goes to Rampage, 4 and 5 could really go either way. But I gave them to Forrest for being the aggressor and for landing that leg kick over and over again (not to mention the triangle attempt). I hope he doesn't have to face Liddel, it's just a bad match-up for him stylistically, but I stopped underestimating Forrest a long time ago.; July 6, 2008 12:51 AM
Anonymous said...: wow, what a pile of crap. quinton fought terrible; July 6, 2008 2:41 AM
Photography San Diego said...: Forrest big joke. Doesn't fight just stays alive and wins by decision. Funny thing is: Rampage has no fear against Chuck with nockout power but agaist Forrest didn't want to go in. Go figure...; July 6, 2008 2:46 AM
Photography San Diego said...: Forrest big joke. Doesn't fight just stays alive and wins by decision. Funny thing is: Rampage has no fear against Chuck with nockout power but agaist Forrest didn't want to go in. Go figure...; July 6, 2008 2:46 AM
dj said...: "Wow, that was a pretty terrible fight, and rampage fought horribly. I'm a big rampage fan, and that disgusted me. Best division now has the worst champion, he'll lose it on the first defense though. Winner of rashad vs liddell, either can and will beat him.

I still can't believe that just happened."

You're letting your emotions get the better of you. I was also kinda rooting for Rampage, but by halfway into round 5 it was pretty obvious even to me that unless he got a KO he was losing the decision.

I think Forrest has the potential to be a great champion.; July 6, 2008 2:58 AM
Anonymous said...: there should be an immediate petition to get quinton an immediate rematch.

it can definitly happen if we all pitch in.; July 6, 2008 2:59 AM
NorCal said...: IT WAS NINE MONTHS LAST TIME JACKSON WAS IN A FIGHT!!! Big fan of Jackson but if you look at his interviews, he was expecting to get into the cage and SHIT on him... Jackson said, "Its the perfect fight for me with a nine month layoff."; July 6, 2008 3:42 AM
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Anonymous said...: This is just obvious what UFC (and Rampage) are up to: five round fights that go to decision mean even more people will watch the rematch, which means more money for everyone. Common, any of us who have watched Jackson know he didn't make an effort (though the leg kicks were what kept Forrest in it, so hat's off to whoever on Forrest's team spotted that chink). Question is when to bet on Jackson (in rematch II or rematch III)?; July 6, 2008 3:51 AM
Anonymous said...: i like rampage and now am excited for wandy or shogun vs jackson. i also thought rampage performed decently for not being able to move from a busted knee. forrest fought smarter.
anderson im convinced can take the division now.; July 6, 2008 4:05 AM
Anonymous said...: You guys are crazy to think rampage should have won. he didn't do anything. griffin controlled the entire fight. plus to who ever said rampage should have kicked and tried take downs obviously has never been kicked the leg. forrest knew rampages strengths and took them away with some really punishing leg kicks. by staying outside, circling around and again those leg kicks kept ramapages punches from doing any real damage. get off the internet and into a ring and them talk about who should have done what. great fight. forrest deserves it for out fighting rampage; July 6, 2008 4:44 AM
Anonymous said...: wow i watched the 3rd roiund again rampage go that . only significant n obvious dmging blow was the body shot n all of forrests kicks were checkd n slightly missing n hes supposse to win(expectedly) that round due to rampages knee right ? but he didnt n when he planned to rush him rampage fought back n he started running i wouldnt give that round to him
sorry griffon fans but i think u have to BEAT the champ instead of catching him at the second round n lay on him without serious dmg to finish the round to be called a 10 -8 round n "surprisingly" win the match for the hometown boy ....judes need to realize most of the cheers were much more hype wen he hurt rampage than the knock down at the first cuz lets face it mr hometown JUANITO IM WAITING FOR UR PROMISE response; July 6, 2008 4:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Forrest is the frigging man. He Chopped Rampage down like a tree. what's all this stuff like "Rampage won the decision"? Griffin beat Rampage up for almost 5 rounds. Rampage had a nice uppercut in Rd.1 and got on top of forrest in the 3rd or 4th only because Griffin went for a sketchy sweep.
congrats to the new champ, knew you had it in you.; July 6, 2008 4:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Griffin deserves this great gameplan to take away Rampages base with the low leg kicks. No base less power.

Think if he'd switched to the rear high kick he could have caught rampage since he was worried about protecting his leg

And for all you guys saying he'll lose on his first defence, I'm sure forrest wont mind, hes used to being underestimated and you should have learned by now that you cant right him off.

Rampage looked completely lost on his back

War Forrest; July 6, 2008 5:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Still not sure how some people are still trying to justify Rampage won. The only thing he did in that fight was land an upper cut in Rd 1. After that, he had Forrest down and hurt, and did nothing. In fact, Rampage did very little all fight long. Forrest constantly pushed the fight and landed combinations. Plus, he caught the triangle while on his back.

This was a no doubt about it, Forrest won that fight.

Some of you folks need to go back to Sherdog where the rest of the nut huggers reside.

Forrest Griffin just beat up Rampage and Shogun. Give the guy the credit he deserves.; July 6, 2008 6:28 AM
Antonio said...: I think Forrest is underestimated and I'm a big fan of him. But that doesn't blind me to the fact that he should not have won this fight.

That was a weird decision, in my opinion. It was clearly a Rampage victory, or a draw.

But I guess everybody wanted Forrest to win, and that includes the judges.

Now we'll see some interesting fights... Rampage vc Wanderley 3, Machida vs Forrest.; July 6, 2008 6:32 AM
Anonymous said...: rampage won that fight, forrest took his leg on the second and even with only one leg he was always the guy comming foward and being more effective and agressive. this was the biggest robery i seen in ufc yet.; July 6, 2008 7:18 AM
Anonymous said...: one word, robery. anyone saying otherwise is fooling only himself.; July 6, 2008 7:21 AM
Anonymous said...: rampage own that fight but i also like forrest like a champion now because this situation now opens up more interesting fights for us the fans. but yeah, biggest robery in UFC yet. Lets hope fedor doesnt let tim get the win on 19 july this month! Go Afflition, at least u wont disrespect your current champion by robbing him in from of millions of fans and costumers..; July 6, 2008 7:26 AM
Anonymous said...: hmm wanderlei as a champion again.. can it happen? :D; July 6, 2008 7:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Something tells me Juanito won't be keeping his word about retirement after this loss...

Nice job by Forrest of working the his game plan and controlling the fight!; July 6, 2008 7:44 AM
csreeves said...: New Vids please...all but JDS vs. GT were REJECTED

I can't believe Forrest won...now I just would like to see what the judges saw.

Thanks; July 6, 2008 8:35 AM
Anonymous said...: It's funny to read all of the Rampage apologists piss and moan.; July 6, 2008 9:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Wandy won't be going for the title, it's well documented if he's friends with the champ he'll back down until it changes hands, he's done it before with Shogun, and he trained with Forrest for this fight.; July 6, 2008 9:35 AM
Anonymous said...: They must think people are idiots. This is turning into WWE. And those sh*tty undercards?! Enough's enough. I'm done with the UFC.

MMA desperately needs a league.; July 6, 2008 9:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Damn it all! Rampage!! Melvin Guillard fight was nice though.; July 6, 2008 9:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Rampage got robbed. The Nevada commision judges should be shamed of themselves. The UFC got their wish by having their golden boy crowned but even Forest knew it was not well deserved.; July 6, 2008 10:04 AM
Anonymous said...: lol fixed?

this fight looked pretty legit to me, and was indeed pretty boring at times. Rampage really only got into trouble in the 2nd round whenhe a look a perfectly placed leg kick, and buckled jackson.....seems every upset there is always someone screaming "fixed". fact is Griffin has been underestimated probably since Jardine or before, and he is the real deal. Dec ent fight card overall.; July 6, 2008 11:18 AM
Anonymous said...: thanks for fixing the videos up man :) just saw it again damn, rampage got robbed big time and i aint even a fan of his..; July 6, 2008 11:49 AM
Anonymous said...: When are people going to realize Forest is the real deal. First you guys said "no chance" vs Shogun. Then you guys say "no way" vs Rampage. Now that he has beat both, all I hear from the haters are the same excuses "gee, uh, the next guy will beat him". We'll see about that. In the mean time like it or hate, Forest is the champ!; July 6, 2008 11:53 AM
Anonymous said...: nice fight! but forrest didnt win it. 1st round, rampage, 2nd round forrest, 3rd round rampage, 4rd ramapage, 5th round close to call, would have to say forrest by a close margin. the match was won by ramapage, they just gave the belt to forrest thats all.. too bad this is happening in the ufc, this was the reason i stopped seeing boxing.. i am a rampage fan but i like forrest too. now my only hope is fedor taking it from tim, lets all hope fedor doesnt underestimate tim like rampage did with forrest.; July 6, 2008 12:04 PM
Anonymous said...: I've watched this fight half a dozen times and while it was close, I'd still have to give the slight edge to Forrest. The key round imo was 4 when Forrest put him in a triangle and Rampage did absolutely nothing on the ground (or throughout the entire fight really). And sorry but that "slam" was weak and did no damage whatsoever.

Round 1 Rampage 10-9
Round 2 Forrest 10-8
Round 3 Rampage 10-9
Round 4 Forrest 10-9
Round 5 Forrest 10-9; July 6, 2008 12:05 PM
Anonymous said...: jardine for champion! lol; July 6, 2008 12:08 PM
Anonymous said...: odd, I feel depressed. I dont want to watch ufc anymore. lame!; July 6, 2008 12:08 PM
Anonymous said...: ...um liddell getting a title shot immediately? maybe you forgot about lyoto machida?; July 6, 2008 12:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Rampage was terrible.
He fought like crap. He threw a couple of lucky hail marys, and that was all he did.

He looked like crap before the fight.
He looked like crap standing up.
He looked like crap on the ground.
He really never imposed his will on Forrest - ever.

Rampage said it Himself - "HE WHOOPED MY ASS".

Forrest looked good in all areas, he even proved he could take a few.

Congrats Forrest on an excellent victory.; July 6, 2008 12:14 PM
Glockster35 said...: Guys, Seriously, what fight did you watch?

Forrest OWNED Rampage for the majority of that fight, hands down he came out the winner!

Rampage was not at his best, and that was obvious from the first round! He needs to dig deep within and make his comeback being just as agressive as he used to be!

Maybe some of you should go back and watch the fight again, and put your personal feelings for Foreest aside...he won this fight!; July 6, 2008 12:28 PM
Anonymous said...: it would be nice if they showed who won... now I have to go to sherdog and check; July 6, 2008 1:41 PM
Anonymous said...: if rampage won over matt lindland, than forest definently won over rampage :/

i think forest just pressed the action more, rampage was backing up a lot in that fight.; July 6, 2008 1:43 PM
Anonymous said...: and forest always get cut so i'm glad the judges over looked that instead of making it a big factor in the decision; July 6, 2008 1:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Im done with the ufc; July 6, 2008 3:18 PM
Anonymous said...: I;m over with watching this . the ufc with its obvious favoritism, and its president who cant let his rationality over-come is emotions; July 6, 2008 3:19 PM
R.KEEGAN ELITE MMA GYM SO CAL said...: HEY MJC, YOU ARE A F-IN MUTT THAT KNOWS SHIT ABOUT THIS SPORT.
PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT THINK ANY UFC FIGHT WAS FIXED IS CRAZY.
WITH A FIGHT SO BIG AND WITH SO MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE CAN FIX A FIGHT YOU DUMB FKER.
RAMPAGE LOST THE FIGHT GET OVER IT,
THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FIGHT,SOMETIMES YOU WIN SOMETIMES YOU LOSE.I FIGHT,I DONT FIGHT IN THE UFC BUT STILL SOMETIMES YOU BEAT THE GUY THAT EVERYONE SAYS YOU CANT BEAT AND SOMETIMES YOU GET YOUR ASS BEAT BY THE GUY THAT SHOULD OF HAD ZERO CHANCE OF WINNING.
ALL YOU PUNKS TALKING CRAP SAYING ITS FIXED TRY FIGHTING AND TRAINING LIKE A PRO AND YOU WILL SEE HOW WRONG YOU ARE.; July 6, 2008 3:20 PM
Anonymous said...: forest is just a lame champion, this reminds me of when matt serra won; July 6, 2008 3:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Jackson won I believe. Forrest was the busier fighter but when it comes to scoring they score it a lot like boxing, punches thrown to punches landed and in forrest's case he threw more then landed, and the few that did where weak. 1,3,4 for rampage, 2, 5 for forrest, I'm not going to say it was fixed because it is dumb to assume such a thing but judges need to open their eyes. Overall a takedown is a takedown, which scores heavily on a score card, rampage got the knockdown during the 1st with a couple of other shots that shook forrest, forrest got the mount in the 2nd and did literally no damage for 2mins. Quinton landed more punches in the 3rd, and also in the forth, forrest's submission attempt shouldn't have given him points because rampage got out of it with another slam ( though a little weak but a slam is a slam) Points go to the success of an action not just because someone went for it. As in forrest's case where he through more then landed. And the whole shogun shit is dumb, shogun was never that good to begin with in my eyes, and he looked way off even before stepping into the ring with forrest, Jardine, knocked the shit out of forrest and i dont consider him to be all that great either, forrest better enjoy his short champ status, he won't last past his 1st title defense, unless they pair him with Macheta which i dont even think Macheta deserves it, his win over tito wasn't impressive; July 6, 2008 4:02 PM
Anonymous said...: you rampage fans need to go buy some tampons and stfu.

he lost, and was over-worked. go cry about it.; July 6, 2008 5:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Man, round 2 wasn't a 10-8 at all. Forrest dominated the position and had a couple quick sub attempts, but never had Rampage in real danger. That round wasn't unlike a Sean Sherk domination, and Sherk never gets 10-8 for that.

Hell, look at Couture-Sylvia. Randy completely and utterly owned Tim every single round and almost had him finished a couple times, but ended up with "only" 50-45 unanimous. If every one of those rounds (ESPECIALLY the first) was a 10-9, then Griffin's round 2 was a 10-9 too.

Plus, that guy above me is right about attempts vs. success. You can't discredit Rampage's weak-yet-effective slam AND give Forrest points for that weak-and-ineffective triangle attempt. Forrest had his legs locked up, but it was never that tight; Quinton clearly had enough room that he could breathe, think, and ultimately hoist Forrest off the mat. In other words, it was a weak triangle; Griffin wasn't able to control the trapped arm, and without doing that, you can hold a guy but you'll never choke him out. And since that was Forrest's biggest move that round, I'd have to go 10-9 Rampage.; July 6, 2008 5:46 PM
csreeves said...: Thanks for re-posting.

Rampage just flat out got out-worked. I see why all you Rampage nut huggers are crying...because you only saw your boy get DOMINATED in round 2...but sometimes outworking someone (even if it's not in a DOMINATING fashion) still wins the round. Name more than one round where Jackson OUTWORKED Forrest!

How I see it:

The no debate rounds -
Round 2 - FG
Round 4 - RJ

Then comes the questionable ones -
Round 1 - RJ (FG outworks him the entire round and then gets caught towards the end...last impression)
Round 3 and 5 - FG (outworks/connects more/fresher...minus a couple spurts by RJ, does nothing to take these rounds)

Would love to see Machida get a shot at the Title.

PS R Keegan - you forgot to invite all these winy bitches to your gym so they can see how a real fighter does it...need to repost ASAP...don't forget all CAPPS; July 6, 2008 6:43 PM
Anonymous said...: R KEEGAN, SHUT YOUR MENSTRUATING ASS UP! AND STOP WRITING IN CAPS LIKE PRE-PUBERTY HAIRLESS BOY.; July 6, 2008 7:02 PM
Cisa said...: R.KEEGAN ELITE MMA GYM SO CAL--the fight may or may not have been fixed (many already question it, see sherdog.net forums), but your raving sounds like steroids + down syndrome; July 6, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...: r.keegan you capslocking homo-racist stfu xD; July 6, 2008 8:10 PM
Allen said...: Thanks for the Video!!

I agree you new Rampage fans need a Tampon or 2. NEW MMA fans are amusing, and childish.

For your information Rampage has been fighting in Pride since 2001 and while he was a tough guy he was never a dominate performer. Rampage's performances in Pride were up and down.

Rampage fought the same style in this fight he has fought in years.

I don't see how you morons claim Rampage won any thing but the first round and even then it was ONE punch, you could call it even.

Lets examine the factors of winning:

1) Aggressiveness = Griffin
2) Punches = Even (Rampage for power, Griffin for # of punches)
3) Kicks = Griffin !!!
4) Submission attempts = Griffin
5) Ground Control= Griffin !!!
6) Damage = Griffin

I like Rampage but he did nothing to WIN the fight. Hell yea he punches hard but this is MMA.

You may not like Griffin but HE WON the FIGHT CLEARLY.

If you want to see Robbery go watch Bisping vs. Hammil

Funny thing is Chuck beats everyone but Rampage kills him both times, Chuck beats Wandy but Wandy destroys Rampage.

Healthy Shogun can beat all of them but Forrest bets Shogun and Jardine beats Forrest but gets KTFO by Wandy..

So who is the best???

Today its FORREST, Live with it!; July 6, 2008 8:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Here's a good one... did anyone notice that before the decision even came out, they were only playing Forrest's highlight clips and none of the clips where Rampage rocked Forrest several times. It seems fixed to me. In my opinion there is no way that one round of leg kicks and one round of of maintaining ground position(with no damage done) wins over three rounds of vastly superior punching and several knockdowns due to those punches. Anyone arguing that fight for Forrest is either a biased Forrest fan, doesn't understand how scoring a fight is supposed to work, or has got some racial problems they need to work on. Anyway you slice it, it sucks to have the hero's of our sport be subject to the whims of business men.; July 6, 2008 9:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Rampage didn't even fight. And not for nothin', wasn't he the one saying the fight wouldn't go to a decision? He shouldn't have let the fight go the distance by sitting back and letting Forrest be the aggressor the whole fight; maybe if Rampge DID fight like he wanted to win, I'd have more sympathy. As is, I'm happy Forrest won, the guy deserves it for all the shit everyone keeps giving him, for what I have no idea. I think people still have sand in their crotches over losing PRIDE.; July 6, 2008 10:51 PM
Anonymous said...: damn... i honestly couldnt believe my eyes when i saw the fight. That definitely wasn't the same rampage that fought Henderson in a 5 round war. The Rampage that fought that match never stopped moving, never gave up and was so aggressive that he almost collapsed after the final bell. This one seemed to gas really quickly and was flat footed although i think it was probably Forrests leg kicks which caused the melt down. Much respect to Forrest for maintaining a solid strategy once again pulling out the upset but I still gave rampage rounds 1, 3 and 4. Maybe Jackson really did get overwhelmed with all the publicity, this is a guy who according to his room mate in college spent 10+ hours playing videos games. Chuck always looks like hes on coke when they shoot him watching events and i hope rampage doesnt follow him on that. I hope Jackson regains his focus...

as for a machida vs griffin fight? Itd probably be a great display of technical strategic fighting by two great fighters but will probably be boring as hell...; July 6, 2008 10:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Do people understand that the State Athletic Commission assigns judges NOT the UFC or any promotion? Are some of you actually claiming that Dana White is somehow bribing the State Athletic Commission who in turn finds a shady group of judges to score it the way they want? You've got to be fucking kidding me. Your favorite fighter lost, the end. Claiming a fix is a serious accusation, go do some investigative work or shut your no-proof conspiracy theory mouth shut. Go crazy about Bisping-Hamill, that was an unbelievable decision. As for Forrest-Rampage, they way you guys are talking makes it sound like Rampage slammed him 20 times, punched him into a bloody pulp and left him half dead in the octagon. Robbery?!? Give me a break. Watch that fight again and try to be OBJECTIVE. You may disagree with the decision and still believe Rampage won, ok, fair enough. But robbery? What fight were you guys watching?; July 6, 2008 11:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Forrest is not the best in the world but performed better than rampage. Rampage looked like he had a funeral to attend. I have never seen such a boring rampage fight.; July 7, 2008 3:04 AM
Anonymous said...: WATCH THE FUCKING FIGHT, IDIOTS.

round 1 rampage 10/9
round 2 forrest 10/8
round 3 rampage 10/9
round 4 rampage 10/9
round 5 either way.
Either Rampage won or it was a tie. Yes Forrest dominated with being more agressive + leg kicks, but this is a UFC fight. UFC fights are judged by rounds.. Rampage won 3 or 4 of them and lost one by 2 points, so could not have lost. Yes forrest was more dominant in striking(amount), but Rampage hited him more efectivly (more power). UFC wants a TUF champion is all there is to it.
Too bad for Forrest for now.. Machida would make a joke out of Forrest him. Liddell would also, as well as Wanderlei and just about everyone else.; July 7, 2008 6:33 AM
Anonymous said...: Not seeing why folks are giving 3 to Page. Forrest pushed the pace the entire time, Page backed off and threw counter punches that were blocked. Forrest is like the blue collar hard worker that is doglike in obedience and work. Great job. Excellent fight.; July 7, 2008 7:38 AM
Anonymous said...: THey should do a psych study on how people see a fight differently based on who they like more. It's hilarious to see people claim Jackson won that fight after winning one round, maybe two. Jackson looked really rusty.; July 7, 2008 7:39 AM
Anonymous said...: jackson won that fight, like someone said b4, if u think otherwise you need to watch it again, but this time try to be fair and look at all the blows, not just the ones that hit the opponent of your favorite fighter. if you analise the fight fairly you will see that rampage was the one that was more agressive, was the one that caused most of the danger, except for round 2, and he did it all after getting one leg injured. its a lack of character and honor if you see this things but ignore them because you might not like the fighter for personal reasons.. this is wrong people, try and be fair because if you dont fight bullshit results like this, our beloved sport is in real danger of becoming another fighting joke like boxing where you get to see total losers with 30-0 records because they are feeded bums for their entire carrers. STOP BULLSHIT DECISIONS ON MMA!; July 7, 2008 12:23 PM
Anonymous said...: How did Jackson win that fight? He didn't do crap in the last round. Forrest won that last round thus winning the fight. Yes Rampage tagged Forrest a few times, but Forrest just did more to win that fight. I agree with the decision. Rampage did not do enough to win. Perhaps if he didn't get his legs kicked out maybe it would of ended differently.

Forrest is a top level fighter now, he proved it when he kicked the shit out of Shogun.

Amazing how much Forrest really has improved as a fighter, thinking instead of just going in to get your face cut up. :)

Good Job Forrest! Well deserved win.; July 7, 2008 1:13 PM
Anonymous said...: I train jiu jitsu at eddie bravo's school, as you know he is fairly accurate when it comes to scoring fights, he said "It was really too close to call, rampage was more timid but landed more clean shots, all this with his injured leg, forrest was keeping busy but not landing as much. Overall breaking it down, rampage should've won" Eddie made it clear he didn't favor any fighter and wasn't even going to watch the fight.

Everyone needs to stop saying it was fixed, it was just a poor call from the judges, I was favoring forrest, but the decision wasn't right for me, even forrest thought he lost, when they where waiting to hear the results, forrest was looking up cleary begging and praying for a W, and when bruce said " And....." forrest was about to walk away. So clearly he felt like it wasn't enough.; July 7, 2008 2:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Forrest won that fight. He won rounds 2,3 and 5.
Round 3, Forrest controls the centre of the octagon and peppers rampage with kicks and combos, Rampage is at the edge of the octagon most of the round. He comes in with some punches, then is back to the outside when Forrest peppers him again.
Same with round 5. With 1 minute left Rampage comes to life and gets aggressive, but too little too late. Forrest is the aggressor.

New champ.; July 7, 2008 2:45 PM
Anonymous said...: look at the after-fight-interviews... forrest is a funny guy, but even he seems to know, that this was not a good decision. rampage of course sees it the same way. many other ppl, who are objective or even forrest fans don't score it an unanimous decision. it's a close call, so if it's not a draw it should be in favour for the champ.

round 1: clearly rampage
round 2: clearly forrest (but not a 10/8 domination, cos no real harm done)
round 3: rampage(better overall boxing, more hits)
round 4: rampage clearly (take-down/boxing)
round 5: forrest (rampage started out to late in the round)

of course the decision is final and whining doesn't change it, but fuck it, it was a bad decision and that's the point - we hate them.; July 7, 2008 4:19 PM
Anonymous said...: respect to forrest for executing a calculated and effective game plan. Bring on lyoto now, I know he's boring as hell but he will run this division.; July 7, 2008 5:36 PM
Anonymous said...: "1 round to Rampage
2 to Forrest
3 to Rampage
4 to Rampage
5 to either one
How did Forrest win? Because he won 2 points in the second? that still makes it either 26/28 Rampage or 27/27 tie."

hehe, 5 rounds....idiot.

forrest won 2,3,5, he was busier and controlled the octagon. rounds 1 and 4 could have gone either way, even round 1. Forrest was schooling him until the knockdown and Rampage did nothing with it.; July 8, 2008 1:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Rampage will get the belt back. TUF took him out of the loop for too long, 9 months for that shitty show?! seriously fuck that. Rampage looked terrible when he fought Lindland because he had an extended break and didn't fight for a long time. Same with this fight. Rampage needs to keep fighting, he will be back, he's been through tougher losses; July 8, 2008 4:38 PM
Anonymous said...: This is a UFC fight, not a Pride or Dream fight. The winner is not the more agressive.. it is the one who wins the most rounds.
1 to rampage
2 to Griffin (10/8)
3 to Rampage
4 to Rampage
5 to Griffin
Thus, Griffin did not win, and he knows it, look at his afterfight interviews.
Griffin sucks and will get what is coming to him.; July 9, 2008 7:51 AM
Anonymous said...: -"there should be an immediate petition to get quinton an immediate rematch.

it can definitly happen if we all pitch in."

PITCH IN? WHAT FOR? SO I CAN WATCH RAMPAGE BACKPEDAL INTO THE CAGE THE WHOLE NIGHT AND GET KILLED WITH LEGS KICKS? THE ONLY THING THAT RAMPAGE DID THE WHOLE FIGHT WORTH MENTIONING WAS KNOCK FORREST DOWN IN THE FIRST. AFTER THAT HE BACKPEDALLED THE WHOLE TIME. I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE CONTROL RAMPAGE'S GAME LIKE THAT BEFORE.

AND FOR THOSE WHO THINK RAMPAGE WON, GO BACK AND LOOK AT RAMPAGE'S FACE EVEN BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCED THE DECISION. HE KNEW HE LOST. NO SURPRISE OR CHANGE OF EXPRESSION FROM RAMPAGE WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED IT.

IT'S TOO BAD CAUSE I LIKE RAMPAGE, BUT HE DIDN'T DO WHAT HE NORMALLY DOES.; July 9, 2008 1:20 PM
Anonymous said...: "Thus, Griffin did not win, and he knows it, look at his afterfight interviews.
Griffin sucks and will get what is coming to him."

Your an idiot and you lack complete credibility just by saying this. I'm not even arguing who won or lost this fight. Griffin defeated Shogun who was considered #1 at 205 at the time and went 25 minutes with Rampage. Win, lose, or draw, Griffin is a top tier fighter. You don't last 5 rounds with a man like Quinton Jackson and suck. Learn some respect. Whether you believe Forrest lost that fight or not, he has paid his dues and deserves to be fighting in this class of fighters and UFC 86 proved it.; July 9, 2008 4:13 PM
Anonymous said...: When griffin throws a few kick and turns around like a ballarina jackson doesnt do shit, just stand there,he fought horrible,other then the knockdown in the first,he was as slow as a slug; July 10, 2008 2:14 PM
Anonymous said...: When griffin throws a few kick and turns around like a ballarina jackson doesnt do shit, just stand there,he fought horrible,other then the knockdown in the first,he was as slow as a slug; July 10, 2008 2:14 PM
Anonymous said...: I liked the fight, ithink it was exciting and first, and I think forrest should have pushed to end it in the second or 3rd, while rampages legs were hurt. I hate decisions but its very very clear that Forrest won this fight. He controlled the octagon, was more aggresive, had rampage in a few dangerous spot, and in terms of the stand up with the hands it was only slighty in favor ot quinton, add the kicks in the the math and forrest did better.

If you think quinton won this fight, you are watching it like its a boxing match. If it were, yes quitong would have certainly won, but its the faught the same, and its not scored the same - its just not.

ALSO, i'm surprised not to see anyone thinking what i thought. Notice that wrap on wuintons right (i think it was his right) ankle? Notice he completely ignored the option of putting the wrapped leg foreward, in spite of a badly hurt left leg from forrest's kicks? Notice how when he buckles from the leg kicks, he limps both legs?

Im almost certain quinton came into this fight injured, his ankle was in bad shape and he was protecting it at the cost of leaving his other leg out there as a meat shield.; July 15, 2008 9:39 PM