I found a good example of Irvin's clinch right here. This is a good scrap all the way through, with a great ending.
Tuesday, July 8, 2008
James Irvin vs Doug Marshall Video- WEC 15
I found a good example of Irvin's clinch right here. This is a good scrap all the way through, with a great ending.
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Sorry James, but no. He's bigger than Silva, but his clinch isn't nearly as good. You can see 5:10-5:25 his hands aren't in the right position for control his opponent, and before they were pressed against the cage, he allowed Rhino too much space for a possible escape. Silva's clinch is much more controlling. He doesn't give you any space, and he uses the correct hand-over-hand grasp on his opponent's head.
Entertaining fight, but I don't think Irvin is the guy to beat Silva - which is too bad because I'm one of the few who believe that Silva is truly overrated.
LOL EVERYONES A CRITIC, i thought the clinch looked good, it worked there for......
I really hope Irwin beats Silva, but let's face it - Silva is a killing machine. Irwin uses the leg kicks well, but this is Silva's expertise as well. Silva's reach advantage will shine thru - when Irwin will try to close the gap, Silva will punish him. We need a good submission expert to beat Silva. Trouble is, how to get past the vicious blows? Youch. Irwin's gonna wake up and smell the cage I bet.
rhino is alot bigger than silva im pretty sure that silva would get knocked out by any of those punches irvin is one of the hardest hitters at 205
Highly unlikely that any Silva vs. Irvin strategy can be gleaned from this fight....(and it would be a mistake for Irvin to think so...which from his comments about his dominating clinch, he's already in trouble mentally/gameplan-wise...believing this is a strength against Silva)
Last I checked, it's tough to clinch an incredibly quick and devastating striker when his head is 3.5 feet away or so...but good luck with that James.
I doubt Silva is going to come lumbering forward, face-first, banking on an iron chin and slow looping round-house haymakers as his gameplan...ala Marshall.
"LOL EVERYONES A CRITIC, i thought the clinch looked good, it worked there for......"
Sure it did, it was against a non-Muay Thai guy. Trust me, Anderson Silva knows his Thai clinch escapes for sure. I'm not saying Irvin's clinch isn't good or doesn't work, but Silva's is better. There are potential holes for escape in Irvin's (like not keeping his opponent's head on his chest and using a gable grip instead of hand-over-hand), and there are much fewer in Silva's. I guarantee you Silva will be better as escaping the clinch than Irvin too.
looked like some backyard brawl.
both hanging their hands low, swinging wildly, no solid ground game showed from either one (silva has more ground than both combined)
and there seemed to be noone skilled attending the cuts.
thumbs down for wec!
this fight was such a different league.
if irvin keeps his hands like this hes going to get ktfo before it gets to the clinch.
plus if he has as little ground as it seems here silva might just submit him...he was able to neutralize lutter even!
p.s.: guess this was just a publicity stunt for irvin
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